Dyskolos

Guessing you either didn’t actually have a real HDR monitor, or just didn’t realise it shouldn’t look like what it did.

Yeah, me being technologically challenged is probably it. Dude, I retired around 25 because of tech. Besides, if you ever toggled HDR while having 5 monitors attached, you’d think hard if it would be REALLY needed right now 😁

On device or in cloud, you have privacy settings that control it.

Sorry, I just don’t have that level of naiveté. A US-company pumping billions into AI and not use our data for anything? That is why they already gather that much, even without LLMs? Half of my firewall-rules are for MS, so little do they phone home 😁

But at least only one windows machine will be problematic, my others are win-server, they won’t get this crap. So no worries for me anyway.

Stop whining about censorship, stop using media that is controlled by so few people. It’s that simple.

It’s like putting my hand in a crocs mouth and trusting it to not bite.

Seriously? Because not everything supports HDR lol

I never switched it off and never had problems in any content. Weird 😊

If you know the keyboard shortcut, sure. With a mouse how do you do it in a second while you’re in a game?

It’d be not the wisest move to toggle it while in a game. And maybe I’d need two seconds, possibly even three or four. A worthy price for privacy in my book

Great! So there we have it, you recognise that you were wrong. We got there in the end, hooray!

Nonsense. I said from the beginning there are niche-usecases. Those don’t invalidate all arguments per se

MS" don’t have to, just copilot on your device, without any feedback to MS.

And here’s where you’re seriously wrong. It might be local only for simple things like file-search (doesn’t mean your voice-data isn’t sent for “performance and quality assurance” reasons). Most stuff is or will, obviously, be cloud-based. They wouldn’t put billions into that just so that regular Joe from accounting can open office faster. They do it for profit

“MS” don’t have to, just copilot on your device, without any feedback to MS.

Yeah sure. Some features are local only. IF you have a compatible NPU in your machine. If not then it’ll be cloud too. The data on what is local only is freely accessible.

AI can already interact with third party products

Some ai with some 3rd party products. Surely never all with everything. Also we’re talking about copilot only.

1. Why should i toggle hdr off?
2. Takes a second to do with a mouse or keyboard

As to the other example: Sure, useful. To people who just don’t care about privacy (Which is kinda weird from someone with the nick “freedomadvocate”). As MS should not have access to my mails, my calender or my to-do-list. And especially not my contacts :-) Besides you’re just assuming one would exclusively use MS-products to do that. Try that shit with non-ms-products and it becomes just a waste of time.

But for people unable to do so “normally” or who would save tremendous amounts of time there might be a good use. But that’s what i said at the start. Very niche use-case.

You are incredible…if you see a worthy value to sacrifice privacy to do “all os-stuff by voice”, then go for it. Even if it’d be a local LLM I couldn’t think of one single scenario where this might be remotely handy. Can you? Or are you just antagonizing out of boredom?

lol, if you’d knew how my “dark-age” houses look…embrace more of these “innovations” and get some alexas and rings! It’s the pinnacle of tech. Besides copilot, obviously :)

You’re becoming boring. If you so love being a product just so you can speak to your windows to do all the things you “manually” would need too long to do: Go ahead. If you see progress here and awesome innovation: Be my guest. Don’t forget to install the chatgpt-browser too :)

The reason for a smart home is to make it…smart. Most of my home is automated so we don’t have to do anything. Waiting a second (at best) for copilot to toggle my HDR is the time I’d need to click it myself.

But the major point you want to ignore is privacy. Copilot needs a microphone (typing the shit would be slower than just doing it manually). Sure, there are people who are totally ignorant to privacy and even use Alexas or WhatsApp or things like that, but I value privacy. The last thing I would need is for windows to listen 24/7 just so I can toggle HDR or dim the screen. It Wouldn’t even work due to my security 😁

BTW, I can do that now already via smart home.

I questioned the USE of it, not the basic mechanics of what it does or how it works. I can build an incredibly complicated machine to turn on my light-switches (ok, bad example as i actually do that in a smart-home) but turning it on by hand is quicker and simpler. Noone would want such a machine for that. Same why no one (except maybe disabled people or totally technically clueless ones) would need an LLM to toggle HDR or adjust brightness/volume/whatever.

I didn’t pretend. I questioned the use of baked-in “ai”. And if you believe in your total control, you might just be the perfect customer for it.

I know what it means, but toggling HDR isn’t really the thing that makes the total surveillance worth it. Not even for people who are ignorant to privacy.

Name one really good application for baked-in? Nothing useful comes to my mind. And i’m not categorically against AI.

I said baked into the OS. Noone needs that. Everyone who needs ai can open a browser. That was the whole topic here, not usefulness of ai in general 😊

Didn’t say that was a reason to gulp it down. Just that the use cases aren’t zero.

Knew a quadriplegic that gamed with her mouth on windows. A really well working, integrated “ai” would’ve dramatically improved her life and saved her hundreds of thousands for all the equipment and tech-guys. And yes, that’s a very limited use case, but would allow poorer disabled people to also use a computer better.

But that’s really all good reasons I can come up with. For all else noone needs the shit baked into the OS.

I’d say there would be a great benefit for a lot of e.g. disabled people who can’t use the traditional inputs. Not saying that as a pro-ai/pro-win argument. Just that there actually will be good use-cases.