I keep hearing the term in political discourse, and rather than googling it, I’m asking the people who know better than Google.

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    If I wanted to make a high engagement post I would post something like this. Are there any other controversial, not clearly defined words to ask about?

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      I honestly saw someone use the word, wondered what they actually meant by it, and came here to ask. TBF, I didn’t know much about what “here” was, at the time.

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        Lemmy is developed by communists, and Reddit banned a bunch of leftist subreddits like r/chapotraphouse, r/GenZedong, and r/TheDeprogram. As a consequence, a bunch of communists are on Lemmy by ratio compared to Reddit, though Lemmy.world is defederated and blocks 2/3rds of the major communist instances, so you can’t actually see them. They usually are on Lemmygrad.ml or Hexbear.net if you want to see the communist side of Lemmy.

        Lemmy.ml is the dev’s testing instance, so that’s why a lot of communists are here but also why it’s not defederated by Lemmy.world.

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            Here’s Lemmy.world explaining why. Essentially, for having stances common to communists (opposing western hegemony is a big one they took issue with). Lemmy.world is run by your standard DNC-style liberals, they generally oppose Marxism and communism, and uphold the DNC as good. Some are also zionists.

            Now, that’s my perspective as a communist. I’m a Marxist-Leninist, my perspective is as someone who reads theory, does light org work, etc. I’m not a fan of the DNC, I support socialist states, etc. Others may give a different perspective, but it’s also worth noting that there are entire drama communities dedicated to taking comments out of context, witch-hunting communists, etc and this is made even worse by defederation because it creates this “boogeyman” that .world can’t actually see.

            Hope that helps, honestly you can just scroll grad and hexbear yourself for a bit without making an account to see what’s up.

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              Reading that thread, it’s clearly not for “having stances”. Very, very clearly it’s about their intention to push anti-liberal propaganda and dismantle liberalism across the fediverse.

              Yours is a clearly disingenuous reading, and I hope people here aren’t just taking you at your word.

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                It’s absolutely for having stances deemed unacceptable by the admin team. For the admin team, only liberal propaganda is allowable. Any left-critique of liberalism is deemed “extreme,” and was pre-emptively silenced. The admins are trying to have their cake and eat it too, by saying that it’s unacceptable to push viewpoints systemically while cutting out anyone that goes against their own viewpoints.

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                  If you’re really gonna say deliberately connecting to an instance with the stated goal of dismantling and inserting a communist ideology via a propaganda war is tantamount to “just having a stance” then it should be clear to everyone what a bad actor you are.

                  Imagine if I publicaly stated that the goal of my instance was to build a userbase, infiltrate .ml, dismantle communist ideology, and spread liberal propaganda. Are you really gonna pretend you’d leap to my defense when Dessalines obviously banned/defederated me?

                  Hell, he loves to abuse rule 2 to silence “Liberals” constantly. Yet you don’t seem to have anything to say about that…

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                    Hexbear did not state that their goals were to wage a “propaganda war.” They know that as a leftist instance, their users were going to obviously have ideological disagreements with the liberalism on other instances, and encouraged being more calm and bringing sources rather than just posting PPB or getting into shit-flinging fights.

                    Hexbear existed for years before federation. It’s a leftist instance for leftists, it isn’t the homebase of infiltrating other instances or any such nonsense. A good number of Hexbear users are against federation because they want to keep a protected space for marginalized users that other instances do not have the same level of care for.

                    As for banning right-wingers? I’m fine with it. I don’t care for hateful views like zionism, ableism, misogyny, homophobia, imperialist apologia, etc to be respected as some holy right to “free speech.” I don’t think Lemmy.world is bad for having banned dissenting viewpoints, I think Lemmy.world is bad for banning leftists and upholding right-wing ideology as the only acceptable one. I’m not some “free-speech absolutist.”

                    I’m not a bad actor. I’m open and honest with my views, my stances, and my positions. No, I would not come to your defense if you were being an anti-communist or spreading apologia for imperialism, NATO, etc, or were talking about how good the DNC or capitalism are. I’m a communist, I say that proudly and openly, and I don’t try to hide behind excuses for that.

                    A better world is possible, where we plan production and distribution to suit the needs of everyone, rather than relying on brutal systems of imperialism and plunder from the international working class. If you want to learn more about what I believe and why, I made an introductory Marxist-Leninist reading list, check it out if you wish.