• Creat@discuss.tchncs.de
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    2 months ago

    Having your own collection is great. But it doesn’t provide the service Spotify does (or any streaming service). 80% of the time I listen to discovery-type generated playlists. I want to find new music. This is fundamentally impossible with the music I own. This is something you can’t self host. Even if you have a vast collection of music you don’t know (by whatever means your get it), you still need the algorithms to pick the music that you’re likely to like.

    I really wish I could. I self host basically everything else. Even tried some local music similarity training for “smart playlists”. It’s kinda neat at best, but no where remotely close to the music discovery of Spotify and other online services. You need the massive amounts of users to derive that data.

    • tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.gardenOP
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      2 months ago

      I guess that’s where the ListenBrainz/Last.fm part comes in (which is mentioned in the article).

      I still get music recommendations via friends, concert/festival lineups and online forums, but that’s just for my “main” genres. For other stuff, Spotify is quasi the only solution for me as well.

      • Creat@discuss.tchncs.de
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        2 months ago

        Friends don’t work for me. I don’t know a single person who listens to even close to the things that I like. Sure there’s some overlap occasionally, and I might hear about one artist once a week or month. I get dozens to hundreds recommended by spotify weekly, and I actually end up liking a handful of those. With friends, it also only works with known artists, and it’s incredibly rare to get reommended something that isn’t well known but happens to fit my taste by them (don’t think that ever happened, actually). As an example just last week I got recommended an artist that has 60-something monthly listeners on Spotify (now 74!). I liked them so much I tried to see what I can find, and they got a youtube channel with 3 (live) videos and like 500-ish views each (38 subscribers). NOBODY is ever gonna recommend me those kinds of things, cause nobody ever heard of them, let alone anyone of my friends (and even if they have, they’d have to know to recommend them to me).

        As for the listenbrainz/last.fm that is kind of a solution, but it takes a very long time to train up your profile to actually be useful. I haven’t used it in a VERY long time (decades), but last I did it was kinda “meh”. You can also only start out with what you have, as you’re scrobbling what you’re listenting to. I no longer have most of the music I listen to daily as an actual file/library. So getting that up to date would probably cost thousands of dollars, too. Not to mention it being incredibly tedious to actually gather them on various individual shops and sites like bandcamp or wherever those artists happen to be.

        So as much as I wish there was, there isn’t really a (pracical) alternative. Let alone one of the same “competence”.

        • e8d79@discuss.tchncs.de
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          2 months ago

          As for the listenbrainz/last.fm that is kind of a solution, but it takes a very long time to train up your profile to actually be useful.

          This isn’t a huge issue, listenbrainz supports importing your spotify history.

  • lazynooblet@lazysoci.al
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    2 months ago

    The reasons for dropping Spotify are obvious, however pretext of this guide is that Spotify doesn’t give enough back to artists. So the solution is to pirate it? I mean yeah sure, but don’t kid yourself with the pretext.

    How about a guide on ripping owned CDs?

    • Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe
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      2 months ago

      There’s and endless supply of guides for ripping.

      On Windows just use Exact Audio Copy - It can pull all the track info from multiple sources. I forget what I used on Linux.

  • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    2 months ago

    I really seriously want to ditch Spotify. The apps are trash, always doing shit I don’t want without asking, I’m now getting ads for bands or artists that I don’t know and never want to know, which is the last drop

    Problem is that I have some 6000 songs long playlist. How can I get this playlist off of Spotify and where can I find the songs? I don’t mind paying (once, as in the good times) for songs, but I’m done with the paying to own nothing

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      2 months ago

      You can export your data from Spotify, and use that as a basis for downloading songs via for example yt-dlp (this can be automated), or slowly build it up again over time in whatever system you set up by buying the albums/compilations containing the songs.