• RagingRobot@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    They would remove the camera not the traffic light. I don’t think that would cause an accident

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      4 hours ago

      The camera only snaps a picture when people blow the traffic light. If everybody obeyed the traffic lights then nobody would ever get their car’s picture taken with the camera.

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        2 hours ago

        They have speed and traffic light cameras made by the same companies and they are pushing them out indiscriminately.

        Also why should that company get money if someone speeds or goes through a red light? Why do they get that privilege but no one else does? The government getting fines is one thing but a private company is another

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      9 hours ago

      The reason the camera is there is because of the crashes that happened when it wasn’t.

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        4 hours ago

        Cool, sucks that we went with the vibes feels like it should help solution then.

        https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/red-light-cameras-may-not-make-streets-safer/.

        We found no evidence that red light cameras improve public safety. They don’t reduce the total number of vehicle accidents, the total number of individuals injured in accidents or the total number of incapacitating injuries that involve ambulance transport to a hospital.

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        8 hours ago

        That’s not true. We have a ton of these popping up in my neighborhood in places where there haven’t been issues.

        Also they are owned by private companies that pocket most of the money you pay the fine with.

        Why do I need 5 of these on my way to work in the morning? That’s 5 times where if I accidentally went too fast I have to pay a private company $200. That’s up to 10 times a day I am at risk of a random fee to some company. Insane that you want that

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            2 hours ago

            Everyone goes over the speed limit at some point but usually there isn’t a cop there so there is no issue. It’s impossible to drive exactly the speed limit even if you wanted to

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          5 hours ago

          All good but “risk of a random fee” ?🤨

          Same discussions as in German; FFS people have to drive within the speedlimit. That’s the meaning of a limit. If you cannot do that reliably you will not get a fine for accidentally driving 3km/h under the limit. I do not understand how checking people for safe driving is seen as a predatory practice. Everybody getting fined is literally in the wrong.

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            5 hours ago

            In America we like to build roads in such a way as they cannot reasonably work at posted speeds force everyone to speed somewhat and just pull over the minorities for speeding whilst black. For 20 years the maximum speed on the interstate highways was 55 mph or 88 kph. In case you aren’t familiar with the vernacular.

            Interstate: A high-speed, controlled-access road in the U.S. network of highways designed for long-distance travel and linking major urban areas

            It’s still common for there to be areas that for practical purposes roll at 10-15 mph over posted limit where literally every car is going that speed and being pulled over is basically a random act of police rather than actual normal law enforcement.

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            5 hours ago

            My only real issue with it is that there are a ton of them now and they are privately owned. If the fine went to the city that would be a different story.

            Imagine if next they put a sensor right in your car so if you ever go over a limit you always get a fine. Would you still be into that? Would you buy that car?