I’m a long time user of Joplin but now looking for a newer solution. I was looking at Trilum notes for the tight OIDC integration with Authelia. Has anyone here tried Trilium notes? What are your opinions on it?
I know this is a rather necro-y post, but I’m surprised nobody mentioned anytype. I’ve been using it for the last 2 months and I’m slowly moving my notes off obsidian, as well as my journal off logseq/nextcloud.
I went in a bit weary, the webpage looks like the typical startup project ready to pull the rug off your feet at any point, but there’s a self-hosted option and even a local-only mode that syncs devices across your LAN.
Thanks for the recommendation. I’ll check it out. Do you use it behind a reverse proxy?
I have nginx set up for limited stuff, most of my selfhosted services I kept behind tailscale.
The only big con I found against it, it’s hard to switch between the self-hosted and “normal” vaults. I should test if I can have another copy (eg appimage) with separate settings for that.
I am heavily using the local-only mode but I’ve also recommended it to some normie friends, so sharing vaults in different modes becomes a hassle
Edit: tldr, I’m using the “local only” mode but since I have tailscale, everywhere is LAN ;)
I’m getting into this and have some questions (if that’s okay). We still download their mobile & desktop apps, right? Then select either “local-only” or “self-hosted”? Is one free and the other costs money? If so, I’ll do what you’re doing except I just put a wireguard server on my opnsense box and vpn into my local network that way.
Is there a sample docker compose you could show me? I found this docker-compose and this env file but it all seems unnecessarily complicated. Is this what you’re using?
The normal account (dafault) is the only monetized option, giving 100mb of free space.
I did a quick check on the self hosted option in the beginning and same, seemed too convoluted and decided to stick with the local method, since I tested it (turning phone WiFi off) and it was still syncing (via tailscale)
On the upside, I tested the import/export features and seemed rather solid, so you can always create a new local account (save the seed phrase!) And bring your stuff back into it.
I’ve been a Joplin user as well for some time and decided to switch to something different too. I looked at Trilium as a possible alternative but decided it wasn’t for me. Seems like their self hosted sync server doesn’t have much in terms of proper authentication at all? At least from what I’ve seen from the setup and when I skimmed through the docs. However there does seem to be encryption available which at least seems to be something. The interface also seems very cluttered and has a wild amount of features I’ll never even dream of using extensively. I needed something more simple and streamlined.
With that in mind and as I use Authentik for authentication and user management I decided to look elsewhere. I’m currently testing Jotty/Jotty.page, however they want to format it, and it has everything I need. But it lacks encryption and a proper mobile app. It does however have PWA support which is at least something. I do also enjoy that it is pretty much completely directory based. Even the users and user sessions and shared notes are just JSON files. This makes active backups a breeze and disaster recovery is going into a users directory and making a copy of their directories and .md files. It’s growing on me to say the least.
Hi! I just randomly stumbled across this as I was searching for an old Jotty post I made (jotty developer here)
This is such a nice feedback to read, thank you! Not sure if you still use Jotty or not but funnily enough I literally went live with pgp encryption today ♥️
I doooo and I still love it! I haven’t had the time to update to the latest version yet but it’s running very very nicely and has been a big help in my day to day!
That is so sweet, I’m glad it’s of help to you! I’m about to open another post about the latest updates so keep an eye out for it <3
I was going to switch to trillium next, but in the end I decided not because it relies on a database even more than Joplin does.
I’m in the process of giving Silver Bullet a try. It seems to be pretty well designed. I don’t really like that folders are just cosmetic and not useful for navigation, but I like that it is open source, that the documents are saved in the file system, and that it’s self-hosted instead of synced.
There’s a plug to enable folder based sidebar navigation https://github.com/joekrill/silverbullet-treeview
I use Trilium and I like it. The first thing I would like to mention: Trilium is stale and there is Trilium Next the official successor… More or less… If you choose to try, start with the one that is still in development.
But to be fair, I does not use it as I wanted to. My plan was to use it completly with markdown but I am to dumb or ignorant to do it right. So I simply use the wysiwig style integration to style my texts.
I will watch a video that shows me how to properly use markdown in there.
On the other hand, actually I think about switching to some AsciiDoc Notes/Wiki stuff. Simply because I like the way AsciiDoc works…
And the last to mention: I have no experience with Authelia.
I have used both but just started using jotty (jotty.page, github link on the bottom). The SSO setup with Authentik was seamless and it seems really snappy so far and the Dev seems active and involved.


