At this point for people who lost their jobs it would be much better for all of us to make new companies together that are not on stock market also unionized, cooperative, or unionized cooperative.
Coming back to the same companies who will just fire us for more profit is not a sustainable cycle for anybody. Yes apply for jobs if you really need it but let’s want better for ourselves.
We can release Open source/documentation/procedures/business documentation/management documentation etc to collectively make it easier to create different new tech companies for specific things.
We can spin up an opensourcebusiness community here on Lemmy to do it together (Have no idea how to make/manage Lemmy communities and have projects already if any people would like to pick up this initiative. I can assist however I can in spare time)
No worries, maybe you can do a role of promotion getting it in the eyes of people with the skills to get it done. Many ways to go about it. Another person on my comment thread is willing to do it. Couple others too
it would be much better for all of us to make new companies together
Companies need clients. That’s sort of the secret sauce in business. If you don’t have good relationships with the management at your client firms, you can’t win the contracts that give your work recognizable monetary value.
We can spin up an opensourcebusiness community here on Lemmy to do it together (Have no idea how to make/manage Lemmy communities and have projects already if any people would like to pick up this initiative. I can assist however I can in spare time)
Tbf, unless there’s some massive capital expense that I’m not thinking about, you don’t really need any capital for doing software related work besides a computer, which most people already have anyway and maybe some office space. Software is about as capital lite as an industry can be, so if making a workers co-op under capitalism is going to work in any industry, it would be software.
Have you talked to a lot of tech workers? I feel like there’s a set of left wing ones, a larger set of libertarian types, and an even larger set of people who are shockingly ignorant of politics and history.
I think a lot about the guy I worked with that said he was going to Palantir. We were like “but what if they have you doing awful things?” He was like, big shrug. He was always friendly to people in the office, but I guess that’s as far as it went.
Yea, I know someone who did the same, and we really haven’t talked since. It sucks that people will put aside their ethics for cash, but it’s not everyone. These people are the ones who get the most headlines
Do you have some free time? Would love to assist however I can on this if you/others pick it up
It would get people working together to make it happen very quickly. Then the load will be shared by everyone who joins it on building it out. The initial setup & maintainence is the spark we need to get it going!!
At this point for people who lost their jobs it would be much better for all of us to make new companies together that are not on stock market also unionized, cooperative, or unionized cooperative.
Coming back to the same companies who will just fire us for more profit is not a sustainable cycle for anybody. Yes apply for jobs if you really need it but let’s want better for ourselves.
We can release Open source/documentation/procedures/business documentation/management documentation etc to collectively make it easier to create different new tech companies for specific things.
We can spin up an opensourcebusiness community here on Lemmy to do it together (Have no idea how to make/manage Lemmy communities and have projects already if any people would like to pick up this initiative. I can assist however I can in spare time)
I’m kinda split on this. On the one hand, I like the idea, but on the other, I don’t feel like my skills are up to snuff for this kind of project
No worries, maybe you can do a role of promotion getting it in the eyes of people with the skills to get it done. Many ways to go about it. Another person on my comment thread is willing to do it. Couple others too
Companies need clients. That’s sort of the secret sauce in business. If you don’t have good relationships with the management at your client firms, you can’t win the contracts that give your work recognizable monetary value.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belling_the_Cat
We would need capital and we would be competing with people that practically own politicians.
Free market capitalism!
Tbf, unless there’s some massive capital expense that I’m not thinking about, you don’t really need any capital for doing software related work besides a computer, which most people already have anyway and maybe some office space. Software is about as capital lite as an industry can be, so if making a workers co-op under capitalism is going to work in any industry, it would be software.
Salaries? Unless you just go the startup route and pay people in promises and equity.
Have you talked to a lot of tech workers? I feel like there’s a set of left wing ones, a larger set of libertarian types, and an even larger set of people who are shockingly ignorant of politics and history.
Might not seem like it in recent years, but there are still tech workers with standards and morals
I think a lot about the guy I worked with that said he was going to Palantir. We were like “but what if they have you doing awful things?” He was like, big shrug. He was always friendly to people in the office, but I guess that’s as far as it went.
Yea, I know someone who did the same, and we really haven’t talked since. It sucks that people will put aside their ethics for cash, but it’s not everyone. These people are the ones who get the most headlines
Love the idea
Do you have some free time? Would love to assist however I can on this if you/others pick it up
It would get people working together to make it happen very quickly. Then the load will be shared by everyone who joins it on building it out. The initial setup & maintainence is the spark we need to get it going!!
Can DM me. My skills are in sysadmin area mostly. Luckily still employed, but would like to explore this idea