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  • Stitch0815@feddit.org
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    1 day ago

    Pretty sure humans have been bashing in each others heads over resources since the dawn of humanity.

    Capitalism made it worse and more efficient tho.

    • turdas@suppo.fi
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      1 day ago

      Half the problem with capitalism is that we aren’t allowed to bash in the heads of the people who took all the resources.

      • ryannathans@aussie.zone
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        1 day ago

        Came here to say this, the problem is the system of government because everyone can be bought. We need direct democracy where there are no representatives that can be bought

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            4 hours ago

            A lot harder to buy off the general population than it is to buy single representatives, everyone would have to know about the corruption and anti corruption watchdogs would have plenty of evidence

        • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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          1 day ago

          The mode of production takes priority, capitalism with direct democracy would still fall to the same problems intrinsic to capitalism.

          • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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            That’s basically true, but I think capitalism would overthrow direct democracy.

            People would vote for higher wages and then there’d be a coup.

            • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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              Sure, the base will shape the superstructure. Any levers that can be pulled within capitalism will either be destroyed or nerfed if proven too effective at gaining what workers want.

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              14 hours ago

              The government is tied to the mode of production, it isn’t above it. When capital owners hold sway over how society functions, it isn’t through bribes alone that this happens. Control of media, control of the state, administration, cultural hegemony, etc all influence it. As such, no direct democracy could really exist in capitalism.

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              9 hours ago

              Even an honest and well meaning politician will be blocked at every step. Like corporations and big businesses sabotaging key supply chains, media engaging in character assassination, and if all that fails then either a military coup or a literal assassination (like they did to Salvador Allende in Chile). Unless the politicians try to gain concessions from the ruling class in exchange for complacency, which means we still have our status quo.

                • orc_princess@lemmy.ml
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                  3 hours ago

                  That still doesn’t guarantee the military won’t take over, reactionary sentiments spread through propaganda, etc. Without a revolution there will never be true democracy.

    • BCsven@lemmy.ca
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      Thats the thing, if we build a system where all needs were met, it would seem that greed and bashing heads becomes unneccesary

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          10 hours ago

          They don’t, there is an empty void in them, typically from an insecurity in child hood. For example I know a very successful guy whos goals are amassing wealth because he said as a kid they were poor and it made him feel insecure and unsafe. So now his happiness is earning more and more. Billionaires have this trait. Whether that be financial, or I have to be better than the next guy to feel like I’m not a failure.

          If life is happiness and living and not economic success, you’d see that billionaire trait die out, its a selfish trait that serves no need in a community