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  • Thanks.

    Can’t say I agree though. I can’t think of any historical examples where a positive agenda in of itself made a difference.

    One example would be industrialization at the end of the 19th century and the first part of the 20th century. One could argue it was far more disruptive of pre-industrial society (railroads, telegraph, radio, mass production) than the information age is now.

    Clearly industrialization enabled mass benefits in society, but it took WW1/WW2 and the rise of uncompromising, brutal revolutionary regimes for societies to come to terms with pros and cons of industrial society and find a middle path of sorts (until the next disruption).

    Let’s hope it doesn’t get to that point in our times. That being said, the current oligarch regime comes off as even more self assured than the beneficiaries of early industrial society (gilded age oligarch in the US, Romanov dynasty in Tsarist russia).

    The current batch of oligarchs has the benefit of hindsight and yet they is no end to their hubris with Bezos talking about millions living in space and comically stupid projects like data centres in orbit and The Simpsons-style “block the sun” schemes to address climate change.



  • So yes, we need a positive vision for AI so we can deal with these problems

    I am genuinely curious why you think we need a positive vision for AI.

    I say this as someone who regularly uses LLMs for work (more as a supplement to web searching) and uses “AI” in other areas as well (low resolution video upscaling). There are also many other very interesting use cases (often specialized) that tend to be less publicized than LLM related stuff.

    I still don’t see why we need a positive vision for AI.

    From my perspective, “AI” is a tool, it’s not inherently positive or negative. But as things stand right now, the industry is dominated by oligarchs and conmen types (although they of course don’t have a monopoly in this area). But since we don’t really have a way to reign in the oligarchs (i.e. make them take responsibility for their actions), the discussion around positive vision almost seems irrelevant. Let’s say we do have a positive vision for AI (I am not even necessarily opposed to such a vision), but my question would be, so what?

    Perhaps we are just talking about different things. :)

    P.S. FWIW, I read your replies in this thread.


  • FWIW, from my last reading of their privacy policy, they openly stated that they do share PII with other companies who they consider to be their partners.

    They claim that they don’t share PII with third parties “for their marketing purposes”.

    That being said, you’re at the mercy of their definition of “partner” and interpretation of “for [the third party’s] marketing purposes”.

    I should honestly just re-read their privacy policy (and the same for Google and Meta).