Sure yeah, my comment originally mentioned designers and developers, but I was too tired to remember that in my follow-up comment.

It’s hard to be extremely detailed and also remember every single detail of what I was mentioning as well.

Oh, sorry, I wasn’t referencing the FOSS world with my comment. I was responding to the tech company’s part.

My comment was specifically about designers working for companies, with management forcing them to design things in a way that they would rather not.

It’s kind of less about designers having to justify their existence (although, yes, there are far more often entire re-designs that seem like nothing else about this) and more about them being forced to create designs that management want, rather than what end-users want.

That’s what my comment was about.

I kind of get the idea that code should be self-documenting, but at the same time, there’s so many crazy business rules that comments are basically a necessity if nothing else other than to explain why in the hell the crazed mess that provides the required functionality for the business rules exists.

While this is true, designers are constatnly beholden to management (much like programmers are), so while designers would love to create a nice looking usable application, they end up having to go with the mockups that management requested which are of course a worse experience for the end-user.

It’s really sad.