• henfredemars@infosec.pub
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    20 days ago

    I will continue to enjoy my incredibly straightforward and to the point Linux desktop that’s somehow gained a new AI-free feature by doing nothing.

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      19 days ago

      Then you install Docker because may Linux apps come distributed only as Docker images and find out that Docker has its own AI built in called Gordon.

      Then Lemmy dogpiles me for, “What do you expect for running corporate software.”

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          19 days ago

          Yes, Docker Desktop which if you follow the guide for Network Proxy Manager and other docker apps you end up installing. You’d have to already know that Docker Desktop has AI to avoid it and find a work around install.

          If the default is getting Docker AI when you install popular apps in Linux, at that point it’s not different from knowing that the default is getting Copilot in Windows and then following online guides to remove it.

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            18 days ago

            I assume you mean Nginx Proxy Manager? I’m surprised that you would even run that on a desktop with a GUI, seems far more fit for a headless system. Of course, nothing stops you - it’s your system.

            As a general note I’d recommend docker CLI / compose, most applications will assume you’re using that and have instructions tailored for it (which is helpful if you’re new to docker).

            To be honest I didn’t even know docker had a desktop app for Linux, I’ve only seen folks use it on Windows and macOS.

            • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
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              18 days ago

              I’m surprised that you would even run that on a desktop with a GUI,

              ???

              The install guide says you need docker compose and links to the docker compose install guide. The link provided for docker compose installs docker desktop. Docker Desktop is a program that shows your running Dockers and allows you to start and stop them.

              But fuck me for being a simple man that Read the Fucking Manual and followed the directions provided.

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                18 days ago

                No need to be so hostile.

                Installing docker desktop is fine but if you are on Linux and in any way comfortable using the command line I’d definitely run without the desktop part. Just docker and the composer addon is enough.

                That nginx proxy manager recommends desktop for Linux environments which most of the time don’t even have a GUI is a bit bizar tbh.

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                  18 days ago

                  No need to be so hostile.

                  It’s frustratingly hypocritical that Linux users rightfully dunk on Microsoft for it’s AI yet defend Linux platforms despite the AI.

                  When it’s the default in Windows, Microsoft is evil. When it’s the default in Docker, you should know better and figure out how to install it despite the official online documentation telling you to install Docker Desktop to get Docker compose installed.

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    18 days ago

    What is this AI everywhere concept actually supposed to accomplish for the end user? Maybe I’m just behind on the vision but I can’t grasp the point. I have a feeling it’s not really about what the users want but I’d love to here a genuinely good use case.

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      18 days ago

      It’s to make it easier for the end user to do what they want to. People are best at communicating by talking and writing, so having the ability to get things done using natural language is kinda the holy grail.

      Being able to summarise/edit/create documents/images/videos, automate tasks, change settings, etc by a simple conversation is an end user dream.

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        18 days ago

        How many misunderstandings happen because people are bad at both writing and talking?

        The answer is, a great deal.

        Your answer is nonsense.

        There is no real use case for the user. There are only use cases for the company.

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          18 days ago

          I’d say there would be a great benefit for a lot of e.g. disabled people who can’t use the traditional inputs. Not saying that as a pro-ai/pro-win argument. Just that there actually will be good use-cases.

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            18 days ago

            That’s not a use case for users. That’s a use case for a very specific sub group who likely weren’t using the OS at all. Not saying it’s not good they would be able to if that works for them, which I doubt.

            Its still not a reason to foist it onto all of us

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              18 days ago

              Didn’t say that was a reason to gulp it down. Just that the use cases aren’t zero.

              Knew a quadriplegic that gamed with her mouth on windows. A really well working, integrated “ai” would’ve dramatically improved her life and saved her hundreds of thousands for all the equipment and tech-guys. And yes, that’s a very limited use case, but would allow poorer disabled people to also use a computer better.

              But that’s really all good reasons I can come up with. For all else noone needs the shit baked into the OS.

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                17 days ago

                For all else noone needs the shit baked into the OS.

                So you can’t think of a single reason why anyone that’s not disabled would want to use AI on a computer? No reason anyone would want to use ChatGPT? Generate an image? Re-write some text? Summarise some text or a video? None at all? Really?

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                  17 days ago

                  I said baked into the OS. Noone needs that. Everyone who needs ai can open a browser. That was the whole topic here, not usefulness of ai in general 😊