• db2@lemmy.world
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    Thanks Gustave, in payment you can eat as many ICE agents as you can fit, in perpetuity.

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    I’m no expert but as I understand it, a longer barrel adds more velocity/pressure to a firearm. Cutting a barrel that short would probably put the velocity in the range of ‘kind of sucks’.

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      Absolutely. They are stickup weapons, you pull them on someone on the other side of a register. The dude behind the counter will still shit himself.

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      It decreases the need for accuracy when used with shot. In a longer barrel, the shot will expand in a relatively small cone. Coming out of a short barrel, everything in the general vicinity in front of you will get little damaging pieces embedded all over their body.

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        Without much velocity/pressure from the barrel, the pellets are only getting propelled from the primer alone. This short would throw the pellets in a wide area but it would likely be Nerf gun ranges.

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          This is true, but as most self defense people will tell you, it only takes a small hole in another person to stop them worrying about much more than “oh damn that dude just shot me”.

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      I wouldn’t exactly worry about range of a firearm with a barrel cut so short the ends of the shells stick out.

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        Its more about the velocity. A barrel is needed to ‘shoot’ a shell. If you took a shotgun shell and hit a hammer onto the primer to set it off, well it would be a mess of pellets, but it wouldn’t fire with lethal velocity.

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      You’re spot on. Also, the spread would be stupid. You’d be lucky to land a single pellet on me at 15’.

      SOURCE: Have dozen shotguns.

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    Seen a guy do an LS4 conversion on that very body back in 2012, wood paneling and all.

    I only heard stories about it, but it apparently surprised the hell out of a lot of pony cars in that area.

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    if the barrels are too short it will ruin the shells, not only that, but the pellets or the slugs won’t go where you want them to go.

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      Something like that isn’t made to have accurate aim beyond “forward somewhere”, nor is it made with reusing shells in mind.

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        if the projectile(s) you’re firing don’t go where you want them to go then they’re wasted

        whether it’s a single slug or multiple pellets

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            only if you’re firing from point blank range, but maybe not even then.

            There’s only so many pellets in a 12 gauge, with bird shot there’s a lot, but birdshot doesn’t do much damage, with buckshot you can only fit about 10 or so pellets into 12 gauge, but then there’s the variable of how long the shell is and how big the wad is

            if you want a shotgun to totally annihilate the thing in front of you like it happens in a video game, that’s just not how it works.

            you’ll be able to put a big hole in one enemy, that’s it. And that’s if you’ve got a certain length of barrel and you’re close enough