• HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    Just a reminder, you can’t prove they’re not still conscious somewhere in their mind. Brain “dead” is a misnomer because having dead, rotting tissue in your skull will kill you pretty quickly anyway. You would at the very least have to remove the brain and IDK if you can still keep the body alive then.

    Keeping them alive normally honestly sounds like torture if there’s anything resembling a consciousness still in there, this is just slavery.

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      20 hours ago

      Not capitalism exclusive, but expected in any system that has strict hierarchy and needs lots of bodies in the lower levels - capitalism needs truckloads of poor people just like petty aristocrats needs serfs. The moment the population of those lower levels start to diminish, they call out for everyone to have more kids.

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        Maybe if the whole world became equally stratified, at this point is makes far more sense to import workers at the start of their working lives who have already been taught to read and write. Simply provide high enough living standards to compensate for the loss of friends and family and you can get a healthy individual where the capital has already been spent and put them to work

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      A good example would be the astonishing drop in birth rates in post-Soviet countries. Capitalism, by providing no safety nets, no childcare and no community, makes it very difficult and undesirable to have children.

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        Plenty of countries have worked hard to provide those things and still have declining birth rates. This take, ignores a lot of the agency that women have won through feminist activism

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          Famously feminist paradises like modern Russia, Poland or Ukraine you mean? Don’t make me laugh, the drops in fertility rates in such countries aren’t due to feminism, women now have less rights than 35 years ago in said countries.

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            I was talking about Sweden, Finland and Canada. Not saying they are prefect, but i am saying that an increase in rights doesn’t correspond to an increase in fertility

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                You’re the one who connected falling birth rates to safety nets, childcare and community. I was simply providing evidence that those things don’t necessarily translate to an increase in birth rates as might be expected

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      I guess it’s implied that somebody else is making a profit out of the pregnancy, since the mother is brain dead. So if it was a normal thing to do you could imagine clinics perhaps, buying brain dead women and then offering surrogate pregnancies. Or maybe I got it wrong?

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        No it’s that everything is expensive and life is a lot of work but capitalism can’t make people fall in love so instead it will try to give birth through corpses.

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        Ah yes, the system responsible for the production, allocation and hoarding of every resource and service in our entire civilization, the system that creates every single incentive by which we are motivated or punished, simply must not be responsible for this. It must just be “some other horror.”

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            What, you think “ethics” is something that exists independently of the social order that creates it? It’s capitalist ethics, just like marrying your daughter to some nobleman twice her age in exchange for some cows was feudal ethics.

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              Your example includes the transfer of wealth in the story and yes I agree it’s likely the driving force behind the event.

              This OP doesn’t have the same pointy capitalist part. It is only being assumed so. I’m not oblivious to the type of community this is but the blind hatred of capitalism is just that. Blind.

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                21 hours ago

                Dawg at this point you’re just saying words.

                This OP doesn’t have the same pointy capitalist part.

                What does this even mean?

                Love to be accused of being blind by someone who speaks in vague cliches and can’t even make a coherent point

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                  I wasn’t accusing you directly, and this is social media, not a white paper. The point being that it is easy to just paint “capitalist” on everything and argue how it is bad, however that is a lazy rhetoric and instead feels like just being cynical and fault-finding for the sake of it.

                  Neither the meme itself or the article it is referring, mention financial gain as the motivator.

                  I am cynical of capitalism as much as the other, but each story/article should be discussed in good faith with evidence to corroborate any accusation of cause. In this case, I don’t agree capitalism is the cause, and if you do, I’m open to discussion if its not in bad-faith.