• RagingRobot@lemmy.world
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      4 hours ago

      They would remove the camera not the traffic light. I don’t think that would cause an accident

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        4 hours ago

        The reason the camera is there is because of the crashes that happened when it wasn’t.

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          Cool, sucks that we went with the vibes feels like it should help solution then.

          https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/red-light-cameras-may-not-make-streets-safer/.

          We found no evidence that red light cameras improve public safety. They don’t reduce the total number of vehicle accidents, the total number of individuals injured in accidents or the total number of incapacitating injuries that involve ambulance transport to a hospital.

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          That’s not true. We have a ton of these popping up in my neighborhood in places where there haven’t been issues.

          Also they are owned by private companies that pocket most of the money you pay the fine with.

          Why do I need 5 of these on my way to work in the morning? That’s 5 times where if I accidentally went too fast I have to pay a private company $200. That’s up to 10 times a day I am at risk of a random fee to some company. Insane that you want that

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            59 minutes ago

            All good but “risk of a random fee” ?🤨

            Same discussions as in German; FFS people have to drive within the speedlimit. That’s the meaning of a limit. If you cannot do that reliably you will not get a fine for accidentally driving 3km/h under the limit. I do not understand how checking people for safe driving is seen as a predatory practice. Everybody getting fined is literally in the wrong.

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              In America we like to build roads in such a way as they cannot reasonably work at posted speeds force everyone to speed somewhat and just pull over the minorities for speeding whilst black. For 20 years the maximum speed on the interstate highways was 55 mph or 88 kph. In case you aren’t familiar with the vernacular.

              Interstate: A high-speed, controlled-access road in the U.S. network of highways designed for long-distance travel and linking major urban areas

              It’s still common for there to be areas that for practical purposes roll at 10-15 mph over posted limit where literally every car is going that speed and being pulled over is basically a random act of police rather than actual normal law enforcement.

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              My only real issue with it is that there are a ton of them now and they are privately owned. If the fine went to the city that would be a different story.

              Imagine if next they put a sensor right in your car so if you ever go over a limit you always get a fine. Would you still be into that? Would you buy that car?

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      4 hours ago

      “Sir! The unfed masses are tearing down cameras to sell them for food!”

      “BUT WHAT ABOUT PROPERTY VALUES? HAVE THEY NO SENSE OF COMMUNITY?!”

      • Chloé 🥕@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        i mean, car crashes very much also often lead to death

        i don’t think speed cameras are a good way to prevent car crashes, but straight up acting like car crashes aren’t a problem worth mitigating is extremely silly

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          The country’s “rugged, free individualism” is a fucking menace. It has given so many people the righteous feeling of being above the law, of being offended at the law applying to them, and especially the “social contract” a phrase that literally enrages some segment of the population on both sides of the political spectrum. I hate it here.