Does anyone know what’s going on at Framework?

One of my friends mentioned Omarchy is great but he said to not use it cause of it’s creator and I only just stumbled onto this trashfire just today.

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    • Both Hyprland (which we’ll just say has an unpleasant history of allowed comments) and Omarchy (DHH… Mostly self explanatory, but go ahead and read his blog and you’ll see exactly the person DHH is. Dogwhistles and all.) were brought up as benefitting from Framework.
    • Nirav Patel (nrp) (Founder, CEO) replied by saying “its a big tent and everyone is welcome”, which pissed off a lot of people.
    • Rather than respond in the community forums, nrp went to twitter to say he isn’t bigoted.
    • Clarification of support was given, that no money went to DHH (kind of a lie here, I’ll get to that), and only a bit to Hyprland. Avoided all discussion of the outsized amount of posts by framework about Omarchy.
    • Blog post was made by framework/nrp detailing how money was spent. Left out any mention of hardware being sent out, later edited.
    • blog post shows that Railsworld (DHH was the keynote speaker) received massive amounts of money by comparison to every other event. That includes hardware, Linux firmware, the major DEs, etc - combined. A truly astounding amount compared to every other sponsorship. To date I do not believe this has been addressed.

    I don’t know about further updates, at this point I’ve written off framework. If you want open, go MNTRe IMO.

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      Why does it seem recently every Indian descent CEO/English speaking politician is extremely far right? That pattern plus Framework’s actions already makes it seem like they’re also far right.

      Though releasing a desktop was the first warning sign in their case I suppose.

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        Crazy racist my guy. I also have no idea what makes you think that releasing a desktop computer makes someone far right.

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          I should clarify - framework releasing a desktop was a sign of enshittification of the company in general, not being far right. Desktops are already highly customizable.

          As for the other thing, it’s just a strange pattern that seems to have been emerging. The CEO of Google, CEO of Microsoft, and now Framework.

          As for politicians, there’s the UK and India itself as examples.

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    Omarchy seems to be nothing more than a poorly hacked together custom Arch distro, with things that what some more “gatekeepy” devs think what “pro development” must look like: TUI apps like NeoVim, that have a very steep learning curve.

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    I took a look at Omarchy after a user posted a pretty knowledgeable teardown of it. Stay very far away.

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    11 days ago

    Using it is an entirely different thing from recommending, promoting or especially funding it.

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          Using something provides social proof, builds brand loyalty, and by sharing that you use it, generates publicity, however small.

          So I’m going to go ahead and disagree with your assessment in its entirety, and judging by the tone of your response, I’ll move on from interacting with you further.

          Enjoy your day.

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            Using something provides social proof

            No.

            builds brand loyalty

            What brand are you referring to? Do you know what this is? It’s not a product, it’s free software.

            and by sharing that you use it

            That would be promotion if you did that, but it’s not part of using it.

            I’ll move on from interacting with you further.

            That’s probably smart.

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              What brand are you referring to? Do you know what this is? It’s not a product, it’s free software.

              https://supply.37signals.com/collections/omarchy

              Yeah dude, clearly not a brand here. Just… Branded merch. Clearly this is not a brand.

              That would be promotion if you did that, but it’s not part of using it.

              You just did this very thing, demonstrating my point.

              That’s probably smart.

              Yeah, it would have been. But I felt the need to address your completely incorrect statements.

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                Clearly this is not a brand.

                So you think using a piece of software promotes brand loyalty to…a line of clothing? I’m just not seeing the logic there. Buying the clothing is promoting and funding it. Using the software is not

                You just did this very thing, demonstrating my point.

                I did no such thing. You need to read more carefully. I didn’t tell anyone I use it. Because I don’t use it.

                Yeah, it would have been.

                And yet here you are again making a fool of yourself. Listen to your heart, brother.

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            by sharing that you use it

            aka “promoting”. They were specifically talking about using and not promoting.