This image was created by /u/kuebic@discuss.tchncs.de for this comment here: https://discuss.tchncs.de/comment/21735989. I had encouraged them to post it somewhere, but as far as I can tell, they never did.

Panel 1: “Installing Windows 20 years ago” screenshot of install wizard with just a couple buttons
Panel 2: “Installing Linux 20 years ago” screenshot of a busy command line
Panel 3: “Installing Windows today” screenshot of a busy command line
Panel 4: “Installing Linux today” screenshot of install wizard with just a couple buttons

  • BilSabab@lemmy.world
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    2 hours ago

    My favorite conspiracy of the moment is that Microsoft intentionally does this New Coke thing and then they will roll out actually good Windows and make all of DA MONY AND KEEL DA LEENOOCKS DIZIZZ. But it’s Microsoft, so the long game will go on forever and there will be no pay off. Also - Mint is soooo gooooood to use compared to Win11

    • vxx@lemmy.world
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      2 hours ago

      Is there any coke alternative that’s almost as good and in some regard better, but for free?

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        28 minutes ago

        Amusingly, Ubuntu Cola is pretty good.

        Lots of smaller, independent brands make nice cola, like Fritz-Kola in Germany or Breizh Cola in France. Don’t expect to find them at your local hole in the wall though.

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    3 hours ago

    Getting help with Linux 15-20 years ago: some forum full with slurs telling you to google it

    Getting help with Windows 15-20 years ago: “Do this and this, if that fails look up data backup methods before the reinstall.”

    Getting help with Linux now: various Wikis and blogs. The hazard of finding an AI hallucinated blog post is significant, but can be blocked.

    Getting help with Windows now: support forums owned by Microsoft filled with users telling they have the same issue, and AI agents hallucinating solutions.

    • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works
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      2 hours ago

      to be fair, some linux forums still have toxic members, and some others while probably not toxic, are still a bit harsh with beginners

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    4 hours ago

    3 out of 4 panels should be a picture where the operating system cant find the proper drivers

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    1 hour ago

    Now do adding program to startup directory on atleast 5 windows modern version from xp to today to same with 5 different distros.

    Also show the screen after attaching external HDD and trying to use it in ANY 5 softwares in windows xp and any 5 softwares on different Linux distros . Pathetically hard is word that comes wit mind.

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    4 hours ago

    Also, Green on Black is subjectively better than White on Blue.

    spoiler

    No puns here.
    Keep it out of the gutter.

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    4 hours ago

    Lots of remarks here on Linux GUI, but Windows installations of XP and 2000 all started in DOS with a blue background and yellow progress bar…

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    3 hours ago

    Look.

    I get your point, but I still haven’t gotten over the trauma from the time I installed openSUSE on my desktop as a teenager because Windows Vista had gotten too slow for me and I’d seen some people talking about Linux online.

    Somehow, the bug I ended up encountering on this distro was the worst thing imaginable: the inability to download anything, ever again. So even when I found solutions for it on obscure forums… I was unable to download any tools to actually use to rectify this problem.

    My computer was a brick for 3 years.

    This was a long time ago, and I’ve graduated with a degree in CompSci since then. However, I’ll never forget the one Linux/Unix course I took, where the final was to blindly install a Linux OS onto the machine.

    I had issues with 5/6 of them.

    I remember briefly asking the professor for guidance, worried I was gonna fail… and he confessed to me that he’d never actually done it before, so he didn’t really understand why they weren’t working.

    The professor of the university level course.

    So yeah, my days of tinkering with Linux are over. I’m happy for you, and Imma let you finish, but Linux is the most nightmarish OS for a layman user of all time lol

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      2 hours ago

      on obscure forums like youtube?

      seriously, I can’t imagine how could that happen. it sounds like you could log in to the desktop, probably the browser was working too.

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        52 minutes ago

        Yeah I can’t imagine what he’s talking about, also why he couldn’t just boot from the Windows disc and reinstall Windows

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      So you couldn’t find anyone to download those tools for you? Sounds like Linux wasn’t the problem in this scenario

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    5 hours ago

    The installing Windows 20 years ago panel is missing the bit where you have to push F6 and have a floppy disk handy with the drivers for your storage device. Yes, an actual floppy disk. Ditto for all the other drivers (video, sound, network, etc.) that you usually had to install once you were booted into the OS.

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    15 hours ago

    Installing windows for most of that time hasn’t been a thing people do. They bought a computer and it had the internets (the picture with the blue e) and the word (the picture with the paper and a W) and that was pretty much them sorted. We’re weird for knowing the difference and that’s not a bad thing to be.

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      Installing windows for most of that time hasn’t been a thing people do

      I remember reinstalling win95 almost daily because how it could break with just a power loss(which happened regularly to me then).

      But then I remembered 20 years ago is when winxp was already 4 years old.

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    17 hours ago

    I am new to linux Mint and mullvad had an update ready, so i clicked update. It just stayed downloading on 0% for like 5 minutes, so i remembered this ISN’T WINDOWS. So i opened terminal and sudo apt upgrade and Mullvad was updated and new version installed.

    It’s weird how windows makes things looks easy, but then they don’t work well. Linux makes things look difficult, but it they work well.

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      Not exactly. The GUI variant of the updater that you tried also didn’t work well.

      CLI mostly works ok (unless a bug causes your DE to be uninstalled if you try to install steam), but GUI is very hit-and-miss.

      Just the other day I had a bug in XFCE where I want to scale up the contents of the screen. So I use the GUI display config tool, set the scale to 0.5 (because for some reason they scale the wrong way round, <1 enlarges, >2 makes things smaller). It does work, the display gets scaled up.

      After I’m done I want to scale back down and the GUI display config tool just locks up on startup and only shows a blank window with a few blank dropdowns.

      A bit of googleing later I found the config file where I can change it back and once I changed the scaling to 1 again, the GUI tool worked again.

      I’ve been using Linux exclusively for many years now, but without google I couldn’t have fixed that.

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      2 hours ago

      to be fair if it had an update button, that should have been enough for it. you don’t need to run commands because this is the Linux Way, but because better solutions are not there yet

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    Ugh. That reminds me of the Microsoft admin fanboys where I worked, dissing Linux because its all command lines, while saying that MS inventing PowerShell was a stroke of genius making their lives easier.

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      I had a coworker, about 30 years old… Who taught computer science at a college prior to us working together… Who said to me “Command line? That stuffs ancient, man.”

      Just in case you were thinking about spending money on college tuition to learn computer science…

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        6 hours ago

        If an ancedote has someone questioning if they should go to college for computer science, they should definitely not be going to college for any degree.

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        Meanwhile in Finland my first exposure to a Unix shell was in an introductory IT course in uni, and that inspired me to switch to Linux four years ago. Without all of that I would have never got my current internship where 90% of my work is in the terminal.

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    Uhhh. No.

    Is this like the time that travel journalist was in Hungary, saw 1 cow, that happened to be white, then wrote “all the cows in Hungary are white”?

    Over 20 years ago, I installed linux with a gui (suse, as easy as ubuntu to install, before ubuntu), and still could. At the same time, could also install Gentoo, and still do. Free to choose how to install linux, any of many ways, gui or not, then as now.

    … Was this made by a windows user, and windows only gives you one way, and they thought that’s what it was like with Free Software too?

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      Think you’re taking this too seriously.

      To the average Joe, yeah, Windows is easier to install than ever. But to anyone with a passing interest in the OS has needed to do more and more work just to keep the OS recognizably sane vs the mess it has become.

      Contrast that to Linux, which has stayed recognizably sane or even getting better.

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      16 hours ago

      Hell, I looked at installing Slackware again a few months back. I think I’ve said enough.

      Coincidentally, I actually did install Slackware as one of my first distros some 20 years ago. I actually had one of those old Linux for Dummies books, which made the experience close to painless.

      Sadly, the call of PC gaming pulled me back to windows for a while. But with Steam, and more specifically Proton, now those calls are coming from inside the house.

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        With respins, there are probably at least a few ways to install Slackware with a gui rather than its blue tui. ~ Heck, even a variety of ways to install Slackware itself (~ do they have a gui method too? ~ It’s been a few years since I explored Slackware.)