• guldukat@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    Why the flying fuck is it censored? Do advertisers really have our balls in a vice that much? It says bitch slut.

  • jaschen306@sh.itjust.works
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    5 hours ago

    Back when I was in high school, I was minding my business when I had to interact with some fat bitch that was talking to her friend. It was either something like she was next in line or something stupid and she said “Psssshhh, in your dreams” when I tapped her shoulders to get her to move.

    Moral of the story, some fat bitches deserves it. Most don’t.

  • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    6 hours ago

    Swap sexes/genders.

    Exact same thing plays out, with slightly different wording in panel 3.

    Probably the woman accuses the man of being gay, broke, and/or busted, and/or ‘probably having a small dick anyway’, possibly also remarking on their asserted status as a virgin/incel/creep.

    The woman is … roughly as likely to post a tiktok of this encounter, aimed at socially destroying the refusing man’s reputation, as the man in the original situation is to respond to being refused with additional, actual physical violence.

    Both cishet sexes and genders objectify the refuser’s sex/gender in a mocking way, in their indignant retort.

    That.

    That’s about what I expect.

    That immature and insecure people are unnecessarily cruel when their egos are damaged, and are roughly equally likely to escalate their indignant response to something more serious and damaging, its just that the manner in which they would perform that escalation differs.

  • Sunsofold@lemmings.world
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    Women should just be honest… and then women and men should work together to correct anyone who fails to respect their honesty.

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        There’s a tricky evolutionary advantage to certain levels of deceit. You tell people what they want to hear well enough, and they’ll put you in charge. Do a slightly less apt job, and maybe they’ll just let you sleep with them. Then for some insane reason, if you do a REALLY bad job at it and walk around angry, you get bad-boy/girl points and people fall all over you to get in / stay in abusive relationships with you.

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    I’ve seen enough other dudes have interactions with women similar to what this comic depicts that I’m not going to bitch about it just because I’ve never responded that way to rejection. There’s lots of trash people in this world.

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    Please don’t do that. If a woman told me she’s interested in me, I’d either lock up or vanish into the ether.

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    13 hours ago

    Pretty Mysandrist post there.

    You should not expect this behavior, expressing anger from being turned down, from men or women, and it should make you angry.

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      Misandrist to say that people who generalize women as dishonest probably give people a reason to lie?

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        Misandry - (/ mɪsˈændri /) - is the hatred of or prejudice against men or boys.

        Assuming and expecting men to start berating you, if you tell them you’re not interested, and sharing this preconception with others is definitely a prejudice. This behavior from a male is not normal, should not be normalized, nor should women be afraid to speak or resigned to that behavior.

        If a man made a comic about turning a woman down and that woman making ape noises and throwing poop at him, and ends with “why does this always happen?!” that would be a prejudiced comic.

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          This behavior is not normal, but it is all too common. Women shouldn’t be afraid to honestly decline a man’s advances, but a lot of men give them very good reason to

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            Yes the first panel which is immediately contradicted by the third and fourth, implying that women should never trust men or speak their mind to men and instead fear them.

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              Media literacy is dying.

              The first panel is relevant. The first character(who looks more androgynous than anything) implies women haven’t been honest with them, proceeds to validate why women haven’t been honest with them by reacting poorly to honesty.

              Surely, we all have experience with people who feel like they need to demand truth, like that isn’t the default.

              It doesn’t even mention men, it’s about self awareness and maturity.

              Super weird that a lot of people just glossed over that first panel like it wasn’t a fucked up thing to say.

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                It’s incredible that you can see how this artist portrays women in this very comic and still deny that the other character here is a man.

                I’m waiting for the part that excuses the misandry or in any way contradicts what I said. The first panel just exasperates the untrustworthiness and hypocrisy of the fictional character in the latter panels.

                Perhaps your inability to convey your message is a problem specifically with your literacy.

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      Expecting it, and allowing that expectation to dictate your interactions, aren’t the same thing. In this comic alone she anticipates the reaction, but still interacts with him as though the sentiment he’s expressing is sincere. She behaved quite reasonably.

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    Yeah seems like dating now-a-days is completely borked.

    The adult thing to do in that situation is to just accept their decision without drama.

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    Calling this comic “bait” avoids engaging with what it is actually describing. Dismissing it as provocation reframes women’s experiences as manipulation instead of responding to the pattern being shown, and that reaction itself reinforces the point.

    The first panel matters. A lot of men say they want honesty, but what they often want is honesty that does not hurt. They like the idea of honesty, but do not understand how to use it to reflect, grow, or regulate themselves. When straightforward rejection is met with insults, anger, persistence, or contempt, people learn that honesty is unsafe. That is not gamesmanship. It is conditioning.

    Honesty only works in environments where it is not punished. In my marriage, honesty works because my wife knows it will not be used against her. That took years of consistent behavior to build. Outside of relationships with that level of trust, honesty can carry real social and emotional risk.

    Transparency is not cruelty, but it only functions as kindness when the person receiving it is capable of kindness. If you respond to honesty with hostility, you are not being harmed by truth. You are demonstrating that you cannot tolerate it.

    People who claim to value honesty but lash out when they hear it are not victims of dishonesty. They are teaching others to protect themselves. If you punish honesty, you should not be surprised when people stop offering it.

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      Very well said. It’s very much the same vibes as the bear in the woods. If you feel offended by a bear winning out, maybe you should ask yourself why that hurts, and understand why women would make that choice.

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        Yup. Imagine being personally offended by the man v bear drama. I’m confident that any woman I know would choose me specifically over the bear. Why would I feel slighted by the fact that they would, on average, choose the bear over a guy that isn’t me?