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    14 days ago

    This thread is being targeted by a lot of no-content “correct the record” fediverse accounts, upvoting pro-genocide US democratic party and Israeli talking points. Please report them so we can ban them ASAP.

    Thank you to all the posters below doing great work debunking them.

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    14 days ago

    If you have to vote between a candidate who wants to build 5 concentration camps and another candidate who wants to build one. You vote for the candidate that only wants to build only one concentration camp. Sure, both candidates are really bad, but one is considerably worse.

    Therefore, we must still vote for the lesser of two evils. Not voting at all because both sides bad is how democracy dies, especially when democracy itself is under attack right now.

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      If you have to vote between a candidate who wants to build 5 concentration camps and another candidate who wants to build one

      So you support China in their liberation of Tibet from feudal serfdom? You support the Soviet Union destroying Nazism despite the excesses made in the gulag years? Or do you only extend this courtesy to capitalist imperialist regimes?

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        14 days ago

        Obviously not. I don’t support building concentration camps in general, and China is a bad example since there’s no opposing party in Chinq. Admittedly, the example I gave was a bit on the extreme side. Regardless, I still disagree that if both sides are bad then they automatically are equalivent and thus voting is pointless as the meme seems to imply.

        If Harris had won the 2024 election, do you honestly think she would be mass deporting immigrants without a trial, starting a trade war with China, attempt to cut funding for FEMA, etc? Sure, I’ll give you that she would have been content with the genocide in Gaza and would have been propping up the capitalist status quo. However, is that truly equilvent to what Trump has done in just his first year of his second term?

  • Zwrt@lemmy.sdf.org
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    14 days ago

    With democrats at the (wheel?). Its the same trolley, the same track and the same people on it.

    But they mostly abide by a legal speed limit and in general go much slower.

    Sometimes they get to a full stopt and get out to clear some people manually to get back going.

    The gop sees this and cries out that these slow speed limits are the problem. Go fast, get there quicker.

    Neither party wants to talk seriously about where we’re going.

    Neither wants to stop.

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        14 days ago

        The only reason there is a “truce” is cause the Trump regime causes so much chaos they think they can get away with a hypernormalized fake truce.

        Also Trump does not care one bit about what happens in reality as long as he believes that people believe him to be successful. Towards BN he is nothing but a useful fool.

        Most media channels are happy to stop reporting about this cause it was getting old but the war and famine are going on unchanged.

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          The only reason there is a “truce” is cause the Trump regime causes so much chaos they think they can get away with a hypernormalized fake truce

          So an amelioration of genocide is insufficient to you? Good, it’s insufficient to me too, that’s why I suggest voting against democrats too

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            Can you explain you reasoning because It just sounds like you fell for hypernormalization big time.

            Just to make things clear. The Genocide is still ongoing. Trump won last time and the biggest difference it made is a classic trick got deployed to manage public perception of what the media thinks is going on.

            I repeat voting against democracts does not remove any of the issues, we are just more Frequently gaslighted against forming resistanc under Trump

            The best strategy to move away from capitalism with the least bloodshed is to have people need to vote democrat during elections and then instantaneously organize mass protest against them after they win.

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              How are we more gaslighted against resistance with Trump? People are mobilizing in much higher numbers now, and they were quite literally shutting their ears during the Kamala campaign not to hear the names of genocide victims.

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                13 days ago

                FIY

                Part of why Trump won is because the majority of people loath the democrats for their blatant support of Israel. Even Bernie took a big popularity hit because of it. I am not sure where you get the perception that the people mobilising now were somehow ignorant of genocide before.

                We are gaslighted against resistance because media is getting flooded with scandals and misinformation to be upset about, making it harder to unite because everyone has a different priority issue.

                The no kings protest is getting people outside because many people are realising there is a major issue which deserves priority, getting the dictator out the peoples house.

                You seem to confuse these people as belonging to the same groups as the weirdo democrat fans that show up to their events but its a feature by design of a two party system that the majority of voters dislike and loath the party they vote for.

                Verifiably Reality is AIPAC funds both parties and both support muslim genocide, towards the Palestinian people there is no effective difference.

                Also verifiable, the gop created a blueprint for turning the US in a literal fascist dictatorship, which they have been executing.