I was in this camp until I actually have win11 a try. Now i my computer is super slow and all my games run like ass and I’ve spent hours trying to troubleshoot how to fix these issues and I legitimately believe that it would just be simpler to move to Linux because at least with Linux nobody is actively trying to prevent me from being able to fix any performance issues that arise.
This does not mean that any performance issue that arise will be fixable (unless you’re one of those guys)
But yes, this is how I ended up using Linux. I spent weeks trying to fix a major visual glitch on Windows, and Debian got it right the first time. The app store sucked (even more than now), but installing things in cli was far easier than using Windows
I am aware. I am also aware that I’ll probably spend way more time than I’d like trying to fix issues. What I’m saying is that for me, Windows no longer has an advantage in that regard because it keeps doing stupid shit and has all kinds of performance problems that don’t make any sense
The only reason I stop keep my windows partition around is the various card images I have backed up on it. And also arch is a pain too quickly format any media.
You don’t even have to install it to try it out, just boot from USB into live mode.
That’s actually a great feature. Not suggested near enough. Unfortunately, as easy as it is, it’s still well above the average user who just wants to open a browser and check their web page. I think average users need to be encouraged to just get help from a friend or a LUG, just like the late 90’s and early 2000’s for Windows.
LUG
Now that is a term i haven’t heard in a long time.
“Wdym I can’t install linux from vscode extension store!”
I’m ded.
For a large number of people, this action itself is a huge challenge
TBH if the person has a laptop I don’t blame them. Those can be an absolute hell to wrangle into giving you access to the boot menu. Some won’t even let you select the boot device and require that you edit the boot order from BIOS instead! You also might have to disable secure boot if your distro of choice doesn’t support it - and I bet even with Windows 11 requiring it 95% of people have no idea that it even exists as an option.
I’d say I am good in Linux, having it used for 15 years or so, however I needed to research a little bit on how to boot up from USB on my new computer. I ordered it without OS and it somehow still came with a non activated Win11 install and of course safe boot and Microsoft makes sure its really annoying to turn that off.
Totally see how this would scare off many people, so really cant blame them…
Ok, I booted the usb, but I think it went under the kitchen cabinet so now I’m stuck.
Ok, I chucked thumb drive in the back of the car, now what? Is something supposed to be happening?
Sadly,most people in the general public haven’t got a fucking clue how to boot into a USB drive, especially since most motherboard BIOS’ don’t default to do so
I don’t really “hate” windows, but I dislike it.
However I can’t really move away from it.
I did so back in win 3.11 days, a while ago.
I’ve always been a very fond gamer.
But W11 as an OS, the state surveillance style telemetry and some other recent developments surrounding MS made me largely ditch gaming in favour of Linux. I mean sure I’ll play a game here n there but I don’t feel like investing hours of my days into the next “big thing” anymore. Linux is where it’s at.
Why’d you have to ditch gaming? I play games all the time on Linux. Steam works just fine.
Should have worded that differently.
-W11 sucks so much I was gonna move to Linux regardless and that happens to coincide with a time in my life where I want to waste less time playing games.
Steam has done something amazing, I hope GOG follows at some point.
GOG works great by using Heroic Launcher or Lutris.
From personal experience…
I’m surprised I don’t see more discussion here of Apex Legends and how it had Linux support removed!
And Battlefield 1
At least EA let us keep 4…for now.
its technically possible to spoof a vm to run it.
minecraft bedrock was the only reason i am dual booting windows but thankfilly thanks to a blessing from a god, i wont be needing it for long
You can play the android version in desktop mode with the Unofficial *nix Launcher.
android version doesnt have raytracing
Does Vibrant Visuals not use Ray Tracing, or do you mean the RTX mode specifically? If you need specifically the windows 10 version, you could try WinApps or WinBoat, but I’d be surprised if you don’t take a significant performance hit. If graphics in a voxel game are what’s holding you back, I guess the meme is relevant.
i do use linux for everything else, so i did switch. And minecraft for windows does already work with the link i put in my comment, the only thing left is the xbox account stuff
You can also play the Android release fine with Waydroid.
but no raytracing
Fair enough. It seems like vibrant visuals is possible with GPU spoofing, but I haven’t tried it.
Real talk, Fortnite is the only remaining reason I still dual boot into Windows.
They won’t support Linux unless they have to. As long as people decide to play along with them then they’ll continue to not support it. If you give up this game then eventually Linux will be supported.
In my opinion, every game worth playing supports Linux. There are way too many games that I don’t have time to play them, so I’ll play the ones that respect their customer’s choices. I’ll ignore the ones that require us to install malware —whether that’s kernel level anti-cheat or Windows.
i haven’t tried this but couldn’t you use herioc ganes launcher? as sketeched out here https://www.aeanet.org/how-to-download-fortnite-on-steam-deck/#Step-by-Step_Guide_Downloading_and_Installing_Fortnite
No, the issue is that their anti cheat requires a level of control of your computer that Linux doesn’t allow. They could just lower the security, but they instead decided that nobody on Linux could play, apparently thinking that the losses due to cheating would be more than the revenue of 3% more users
AFAIK, Epic hasn’t enabled anti cheat to work on Linux. Their own anti cheat has native support for Linux, but they themselves don’t want to use it.
And this is precisely why I won’t bother with the game, they made a conscious choice to exclude Linux when not doing that costs them practically nothing
shouldve been the other way around. who still plays fortnite
You can pay it via cloud gaming for free with the app greenlight
Just play on your phone…
See also, this:
just fucking switch or shut up.
I’m not allowed to switch at work, may I please be issued a special dispensation to be displeased about it?
no
you can use WSL in windows
it’s still inside windows, and you can passthrough USB, block, etc. devices to it
People want validation not advice, even if that advice could fix their problem.
I am definitely somebody who watched the first video, but not the second.
Because you already switched, right? Right!?
🙂
And how are you doing?
Brilliantly
With Windows or nah?
Yep
I get it. I hate a lot of things about Windows, but switching to Linux would prevent me from playing some games that I would want to play, and that trade-off is not worth it to me.
I finally booted windows because Expedition 33’s performance in Linux was bad, only to realize it was the sane on windows.
Actually there’s a game, the Alters, that crashed on my desktop Linux (works on deck) and had to play in windows. There was some workaround somewhere, but didn’t try.
What games? The vast majority work fine.
The companies that don’t let you choose your platform don’t respect you. They won’t support Linux until they’re forced to. As long as you let them bully you they’ll continue to not support user freedom. There are far too many games to play that I can’t play them all, so I don’t really care that a tiny handful of games aren’t playable. They aren’t worth playing until they learn to respect customers.
I almost always am playing games with friends, so it depends on what they want to play as well. We generally rotate through different games at different times, and the choice depends on what we can find that everyone would enjoy. It can already be hard to do that sometimes, so removing more options could make it worse.
Battlefield 6 is one of the ones we have been playing recently, so that one would require Windows (at least as a dual boot option). It’s also hard to know what games might be the group preference in the future.
Yeah, I have a group of three who I have been playing with for years. It really hasn’t been an issue for us though. We’ve been doing The Finals for a while now, and we did Hunt for a while before that. We’ve hopped between several different games, and it’s not a problem. We just aren’t really drawn towards EA or Riot though, which are the only western games that don’t work, for the most part.
I’ve had enough Battlefield in my past that I don’t care for it anymore. I also play Squad, so that easily takes its place. Basically, the companies with executives forcing kernel level anti-cheat on them aren’t allowed to make interesting games anyway, so it doesn’t bother me.
I never played any of the earlier BF games, only One (Which I didn’t care for), 2042, and 6.
If you like it, I’d like to recommend Squad. It’s more based in reality (though not “realistic”). It’s much slower. You can’t sprint around and kill people. It’s also focused on team play. It’s the spawn of the Project Reality mod from Battlefield 2, so it’s got the same DNA.
They frequently have free weekends. That’s the worst time to play, as free players kill a lot of the team play. For the chance to try for free though, it’s good. Just know it’s the worst experience you’ll have while playing. It only goes up from there.
That sounds like it wouldn’t appeal to me as much.
You can consider dual boot? I use Windows to play games only and use Linux for other things that need the computer
The vast majority of games work fine on Linux. Try not switching sometime. You don’t even need to reinstall them. Linux can read your Windows partition fine, do you just need to point whatever launcher to the same spot.
I expect that there would be some switching cost every time I switch OS (such as the time to reboot and/or the mental adjustment to the interface) and gaming is the majority of what I do on my PC.
So, I don’t think it would be worth it if I used Windows for all gaming still. But I would maybe consider using Linux for everything except for specifically games that require Windows.
But I would maybe consider using Linux for everything except for specifically games that require Windows.
That’s the way. I started this way too, and as I got more comfortable well, my Windows partition hasn’t been booted for a couple years now because OpenSUSE Tumbleweed has run all my games beautifully.
Vermintide II even stopped crashing the entire system when I used Linux instead of Windows! On Nvidia BTW.
Even though sometimes it feels like I might be missing out on playing some of the newest hypey-est multiplayer games, I also remind myself that I don’t want something on my computer like the new Battlefield’s or Riot Games’ incredibly creepy and invasive anticheat, no matter the OS!
… Plus, I got like a thousand games to enjoy anyway. Maybe you’ll feel the same, idk?
I will say though, Linux starts to just feel fun to compute on. It feels like a machine that’s yours instead of some licensed appliance. I missed that feeling from the really old Windows days when it was fun.
Do a little exploring, but picking a distro with KDE should feel at home really quick coming from Windows. :)
Well, my choice of game is influenced a lot by what my friends want to play as well, and we tend to cycle through various games at different times. So I’d want to have the ability to play whatever they want to play. We have been playing Battlefield 6 a fair amount recently, so that one would require Windows.
Helldivers 2 works on Linux but we’ve basically retired that for now because of some scummy behavior by the devs. I have hopes that it will come back, but it has a bad taste for now.
Probably most of the other games we play would work (since most of them don’t have over the top anticheat). I haven’t checked all of them, though. It’s hard to know how often I would run across one that doesn’t work.
I don’t know what the Helldivers devs did, but you don’t think it’s scummy that BF6 requires malware, like Windows and kerbel level anti-cheat?
Regardless of how you see those things or what they actually do, it’s basically certain that the developers do not see them as malware. And I think it’s reasonable to assume good intentions in making those choices, because it is a PvP game where cheating can negatively impact other players. I would give them the benefit of the doubt regarding their intentions.
Many of the things that the Helldivers 2 devs have done could be excused with the benefit of the doubt as well, but they have stacked up a lot of broken promises, and recently there was a case of very blatant deception. It could be argued that it was not technically lying, but it was obviously intended to deceive. And there has been no apology for the deception since then, either.
I would give them the benefit of the doubt regarding their intentions.
The developers are rarely the ones making the choice. I do give them the benefit of the doubt, but it’s been shown it doesn’t actually prevent cheating and you’re refusing to let your customers choose how they play. They get the benefit of the doubt that they’re honestly trying to prevent cheaters, but not that it’s a purely benevolent decision towards customers. It’s a trade off, and the option they’re taking is bad for consumers and isn’t effective anyway.
You should give dual booting a shot and see how it goes
